Women on Gor

I write a lot about Talunas, about Gor in general, about men, about submission. Women on Gor come so natural to me that I never thought our role could be anything to ponder about.

But maybe I should. I made a little test for you, that’s funnier to read. Behind each point are the Role numbers, so if your answer is “yes” consider the roles that the numbers refer to.

1. are you a woman (1)
2. Do you own a sim? (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11)
3. are you new to Gor? (2)
4. Do you have patience? (2,3,10,11)
5. did you read the books? (2,3,4,5,8,10,11)
6. do you like cybering a lot? (1,2,4,5,8)
7. do you like pew pew? (4,5,6,8,11)
8. do you like the crackling sizzling atmosphere of flirting with several men at the same time? (1,4,5,8,9)
10. Do you have a lot of fun in dressing up in elaborate gowns? (1,3)
11. Do you think steel around your neck is thrilling? (2)
12. Do you like to be guided? (2,3)
13. Are you looking for rl? (1)
14. Are you enjoying roleplay? (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11)
15. Do you enjoy “fishing” (1,2,4,5)
16. Are you wild, independent arrogant and dominant? (1,7)
17. Do you enjoy capture rp? (4,5,6,11)
18. Do you enjoy travelling Gor? (3,9,11)
19. Do you obey? (2,3)
20. Are you well organized? (1,3,10)
21. Can you accept another’s leadership? (1,2,3,4,5,8)
22. Are you a bit shy? (2,3)
23. Are you lesbian? (1,6)
24. Do you have a helpful personality? (1,2,3)
25. Do you enjoy shopping? (3,5)
26. Are you poor? (1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,11)
27. Are you a scripter? (1,3,7,8,10)
28. Are you a builder? (1,3,4,5,6,7,8,10)
29. Are you a sculpter? (1,10)
30. Are you a party girl? (1,4,5,6,8,9,10)
31. Do you prefer to not be with only one man? (1,6,9)
32. Are you a true Domme? (1,7)
33. Are you convinced that you (and a few selected friends) know exactly how online Gor should be? (1, 10,11)
34. Would you like to try out new ideas? (1,10)
35. Do you think this test is not for you? (11)

Answers:

1.Leave Gor
2. Become a Kajira
3. Become a Freewoman
4. Become an Outlaw
5. Become a Mercenary
6. Become a Panther
7. Become a Taluna
8. Become a Mamba
9. Become an Urth
10. Silly you, this test is not for you!
11. You are the PERFECT Gorean!

All right. You see all my replies are unfair. I love that. Because ME I am Taluna and I write act like I want.

I love the massive controversies us Goreans immerse in. Our basic discussions are the best ever, especially if enriched with quotes from the books. THAT is the ultimate weapon that can be wielded and counteracted for WEEKS!

"We grow fond of our myths. Yet our myths are like walls of straw. Ultimately they must perish in the flames of truth." Page 257 - Guardsman of Gor

Gorean Careers

Female Careers

Gorean careers are quite frequently starting with a „position“ as a submissive, where new Roleplayers are guided through a sophisticated set of rules in their actions. To that purpose, nearly every sim offers training and teaching to a level of perfection.

Once these so called “Kajirae” achieved a good level of understanding, they are frequently teaching newcomers and welcoming visitors in the manner of a general club dancer. These roleplayers have had the opportunity to learn and reflect on Gor and roles on Gor and roleplay in their given set of rules.

About 90% of the new roleplayers do not stay in that position for more than 12-18 months. Sooner or later theys are ready to pick up a more responsible position in their group as a so called “Freewoman”, again with a slightly different but still tight set of rules that are to obey. Just like for the Kajirae there are certain “positions” that can be achieved, depending on time, skill and money. “Money” in this case has a major impact in that roleplayers now and then decide to purchase and run their own sim, frequently choosing a managing role in the roleplay as well.

The “kajir” position can be left out and the roleplayer can instantly start with a more advanced role as a freewoman. Learning that role is usually less standardized as there is more variance in these roles.

A lot of roleplayers start their SL Gor in a battling group, like outlaws, mercenaries or Panther groups. Female roleplayers have the advantage that they are quite unlimited on how interact with their fellow roleplayers. Since their role is less of a stereotype than that of a kajira or freewoman, these roles are easier to learn but more demanding in creativity.

Male Careers

The male roles on Gor are quite differing: Competion is low, as the percentage of male roleplayers is low. It is mainly for that reason that male roleplayers on Gor can roleplay whatever they like and how they like and get offered positions wherever they go to. A lot of sims offer their male roleplayers protected environments in that the use of combative roleplay is more or less drastically restricted to male combative roleplay (eg stronger males, no femlaws, no panther raids, no swords for females and others). Strict protective rules are a good starting point for males with low battle skills, either in terms of computer equipment and connection speed or in terms of actual skills to press the buttons (or to read and understand a bow manual).

However, mainly due to exactly these welcoming scenarios, the duration that a male roleplayer stays on gor is frequently shorter than that of a female counterpart. Whilst a lot of female roleplayers play inside a strict set of rules that are to learn before a certain degree of mastering that role can be achieved, the gorean male frequently needs not much knowledge or skill at all, shortening the gorean career considerably. Sims counteract that by implementing a ranking system, however rarely demanding a fixed level of skills, again causing discussions about “fairness” of promotions.

Male vs. Female Gor

Due to these factors, but also due to second life as such being less “action” and more "word" oriented, male goreans are comparatively scarce, despite all the marketing actions sims do. Even those sims that are more or less mainly inhabited by female groups are depending on male roleplayers to entertain their groups. Nudity used to be a marketing factor, however it is abundant in all of SL. Careers being less demanding and less time consuming might be a factor reducing male residence time. On the other hand the overwhelming share of females on Gor might be rising some interest, as competion between males is considerably lowered in comparison to real life.

However the low share of men on Gor strengthens traditional book oriented roleplay, since competition between female roleplayers for men is severe. As a result, male Gor is indeed quite princely.

Online sl gor reflects these factors quite well: Gor is mainly femalely managed and maintained, all that you have to do boys, is to ENJOY!!

Its easy enough, the only remaining question is:

MEN: WHERE ARE YOU???

other blogs

ok, I love reading blogs…here s one that made me giggle:

“we had lots of turmoil this weekend, due to our lieutenant who made a walk over Gor and instead of achieving fame or doing anything sensitive he came back with some Hinterwald cattle from some forest in Torcadino, a Taluna. Instead of working on some some new karma level due to these massive grasshoppers called priest kings he triumphantly returned to Lydius with this complaining hobgoblin on a leash. His initial enthusiasm was only cooled down a bit after I charged him for incessant use of a city kennel…I mean, the city needs some tax income?!

Since everyone was soon convinced that a naked savage is unteachable it was decided to sell her back to the tribe where she came from. We all went to the forests, including the savage, but the negotiations were lengthy, red caste is slow anyways. However even after endless negotiations no reasonable price could be agreed on, or in other words: To our disappointment the treehuggers did not want to have her back…therefore the red caste offered to feed her to the sleen, but I intervened and purchased her for five coppers as a present for someone I know but the plan was thwarted since the forest cow had eaten the plants in the tea- house and ruined her stomach or rather rumen…who knows the biology of a Taluna? and was put into the torcadino kennels where she fled due to locks that never worked…however the day was fun as we went visiting friends… “

[poorly translated, massively shortened and dramatically changed from: https://eatsbluecrayon.wordpress.com/2010/06/ ]

Taluna meets Panther

Boswell,

You land on the far north east of the sim , near the sea

Gasps at the first panel when landing :
" Complimentary Salvery whipping and serving lessons for pretty lone free women "
"No princess zone"
"Free stuff - drop to your knees and get a free iron necklace and pretty brand "

Then 2 panthers arrived on the docks ...
[12:38] Shiloh Greymoon draws her bow and knotches an arrow
Lil thinks : it starts well !!!

[12:39] Shiloh Greymoon: tal
[12:39] lil Swords: Tal
[12:39] Shiloh Greymoon: *she says to the unknown girl that stepped off their docks*
[12:39] lil Swords: are you fro this sympathetic land ?
[12:39] Shiloh Greymoon: we are off this land
[12:39] Shiloh Greymoon: of*
[12:39] Kikowah Panthar: tal
[12:39] lil Swords: is there a panther tribe here ?
[12:39] Shiloh Greymoon: we are allied with outlaws
[12:40] lil Swords: are you outlaws ? a tribe ?

[12:40] Shiloh Greymoon smiles...mmmm it's kind of hard to say... we are a mix of panthers and outlaws
[12:40] Shiloh Greymoon smiles.. would an outlaw say she was an outlaw ?
[12:41] Shiloh Greymoon asks "Why ?"
[12:41] lil Swords: "hehe i guess no .. but are you in a group of women or mix ?
[12:41] lil Swords smiles "oh i'm just curious
[12:41] Shiloh Greymoon: "We are a mix... we do not listen to the law of men... but we have a mutual benificial agreement"
[12:42] Shiloh Greymoon asks... "And who are you ? "
[12:42] lil Swords: "oh i'm Lil
[12:42] lil Swords: "and you ?
[12:42] Shiloh Greymoon: nice to meet you lil...
[12:43] Shiloh Greymoon: "I am Shiloh... proud panther of Border Reivers"
[12:43] lil Swords: "my pleasure ... are you numerous ? do you live with males or seperate from them ?
[12:43] lil Swords: nice to meet you shiloh
[12:43] Kikowah Panthar ask looking over the girl..."Why so many questions ?" "Are you a scout?"
[12:43] Shiloh Greymoon smiles and says "How do we know you're not scouting our camp ? "
[12:44] Shiloh Greymoon wonders if she should check this lil for weapons..
[12:44] lil Swords: "i just cannot see any camp .. and as we talked .. i am always curious
[12:44] Shiloh Greymoon: it lays behind the forest...
[12:45] Shiloh Greymoon: (( are you here to see if you want to make a home here ?
[12:45] Kikowah Panthar: "On our land you pay a tax to cross..." she looks at the girl still
[12:45] lil Swords: "ooops taxes ? what kind of taxes a poor wandering one could pay ?
[12:46] Kikowah Panthar: "That in flesh, or servitude..."
[12:46] Shiloh Greymoon grins
[12:46] Kikowah Panthar: "Especially if you have no coin..."
[12:46] lil Swords: "hhhmmm .... i see ...
[12:46] Shiloh Greymoon smiles at her lover...
[12:46] lil Swords: what is the tax amount ?
[12:47] Shiloh Greymoon says "Two copper"
[12:47] lil Swords: "do you have any friends or allies in Gor ?
[12:47] Kikowah Panthar: "lots..." she says smugly
[12:47] Shiloh Greymoon nods
[12:48] lil Swords: "so i guess it is tooo expensive for me to cross ..
[12:48] lil Swords: be well huntresses
[12:48] lil Swords flips 2 coins to the captain and hurries him to sail away ... looks at the coast disappearing as the ship heads home

(pff i hadn't been near the docks ... i was done ..)

then some cool IMs (hehe had a hidden tag but they guessed i was from SA JERAG..

[12:56] Shiloh Greymoon: lol you're lucky you didn't get captured there... take care lil
[12:57] lil Swords: haha .. i'm a coward .. that saves me a lot ....
[12:57] Shiloh Greymoon smiles... might have not been too bad....
[12:57] lil Swords: but you were right ... i was scouting ... so be on your guard ...
[12:58] Shiloh Greymoon smiles... I know you were
[12:59] Shiloh Greymoon smiles.... greet Sa Jerag for us....
[12:59] lil Swords: pffff writing reports ...
[13:00] Shiloh Greymoon: lol I know right.. it's a pain
[13:00] lil Swords: Sa jerag ?
[13:00] Shiloh Greymoon was guessing...
[13:00] lil Swords: oh are they enemeies ?
[13:00] Shiloh Greymoon: oh that and your group is showing OOC..
[13:01] lil Swords: i'm never OOC
[13:01] Shiloh Greymoon: lol then you should know that hidden weapons that aren't showing are not allowed
[13:02] Shiloh Greymoon: that is ofcourse when we strip you...
[13:02] lil Swords: let's find where Sa Jerag might be ... oh i do not wear hidden weapons .. but a small bow sheath and have long hair
[13:02] Shiloh Greymoon: you are obviously a panther...
[13:02] Shiloh Greymoon: and asking way too many questions to be a recruit
[13:03] lil Swords: i'm used to hide in the woods and crawl on my elbows and knees not to be seen
[13:04] lil Swords: "hmmm i'm sure silks will suit you very well
[13:04] Shiloh Greymoon laughs... I will die sooner
[13:05] Shiloh Greymoon: I'm sure you will sell well...
[13:05] lil Swords: oh you don't know the lovely experience you would miss with me
[13:05] Shiloh Greymoon grins .. likewise little panther
[13:05] Shiloh Greymoon: perhaps you should come back and find out...
[13:05] lil Swords: hehe .. i'm sure we'll see each others soon
[13:06] lil Swords: "be sure i will ...
[13:06] Shiloh Greymoon grins "Good"

joy!

Angels

She stepped into the hall of mirrors
Where she discovered a reflection of herself

Sometimes she saw her real face
And sometimes a stranger at her place

Stargazing me

In a tumbling sea

Up in the galaxy

Staring down on me

Stargazer reach out to touch

With your mind that frees you so much

Stargazer kissing your kismet

With bright jewel encrusted scars

Stargazing me

In tranquillity

Up in the galaxy

Staring down on me


Fiery the angels fell; deep thunder rolled around their shores; burning with the fires of Orc.

I've watched Gas explosion glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate, Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.

All those ... moments will be lost in time, like tears...in rain.

The cAcKliNg rAt…

some say it should be called the „cackling Urt“, but have not taverns always have had fantasy names? What does “The honest Polititian” or the “Jolly Taxpayer” in Portsmouth, or the “Swan With Two Necks” refer to? So it is the cAcKlinG rAt!

What does it do?...yes, the effect is as expected. Tavern keepers are a powerful guild on Gor…usually roleplayers are trained to not battle there: But located right at the docks, greeting visitors and inviting them is so NEW to Gor!!

Everyone expects to not be welcome on a gorean sim, to be greeted with insults or futile threats, with arrows or –if a roleplayer is lucky- with ignorance or an instant ban, however absolutely no one is welcome on a gorean sim. At least as far as women on gor are concerned.

Sim Owners pay 295 US$ a month to release a set of rules that explain all the conditions for bans of their fellow goreans. Gorean sims are opened up to tell people there is better roleplay elsewhere.

At best, most sets of rules could be titled: “Leave, its no fun, go play elsewhere!” The sim Owners, yes it US, WE are the enemy of Gor, we keep saying there are too many sims on gor, we ignore the massive traffic in the Gor Hub, not understanding why so many roleplayers go there. There are not too many sims on Gor, we just try to make it as unwelcoming as possible. There are not too many sims, we fail in attracting people. Sim Owners send out notes advertising their sims, but when you go there, their rules are saying: “If you want fun, leave instantly!”

I still do not know more than five sims of Gor, because I do not ignore the sim rules. I read them. If they declare I m not welcome there I leave. They invariably do.

Saphronicus for example publishes:

“(i) The docks is no longer safe after 10 mins. Great thing,isn t it? Safe? Ok, I m already leaving.
All griefers will be banned. Goreans who break our rules and principles will be ejected and if 4 Council Members agree, a ban will be enforced on Goreans.

3) BANNED WEAPONS
(i) Banned weapons are in the attached list.

4. Any Free Woman found to be carrying or brandishing illegal weapons shall be subject to imprisonment and/or enslavement, or both.

7. A Free Woman may sell herself into slavery, but once the transaction is completed, it is too late for her to revoke it

11. A Free Man who saves the life of a Free Woman and is not her Free Companion, or Protector, gains the right to enslave her or receive compensation in the amount of her fair market value as a slave.”

would anyone sane really enter a city like that? Or are we all brain washed?

Where is the warm welcome of a fellow gorean? There is none. These rules are effectively saying that this sim welcomes no one.

Now you understand what the cAcKliNg rAt is for. Goreans are actually STUNNED when someone says: Welcome! I am happy that you are interested and brave enough to still explore Gor, despite not being welcome anywhere.

I witness that effect every day. People come on the sim, they are TENSE, bows drawn, set to battle, barely able to see what is there due to mouselook setting and switched off alpha channel, bow held up front. Approach your fellow gorean! Are you not happy to find another gorean in this synthetic Earth- world??

You should. Be grateful. Welcome your fellow gorean. Some people invest heavily in beautiful dresses, they invest into roleplay to make our gor a wonderful place. Listen to your fellow gorean and acknowledge that he or she is there to make it the wonderful place it deserves to be.
The channels are full of discussions about others doing wrong, about ones own ways being the only true ways. Why is that? The worst enemy every gorean sees is his or her fellow gorean.

Gor became a sad world, destined to fail.

It will never succeed if we do not change our ways. It will never succeed if we don t stop accusing our fellow goreans, whose only wrongdoing is being themselves, who only try to enjoy gor.

Discussions about profiles saying “No rape”? Is THAT your Gor? are you a happy rapist? Go to the ugly free bdsm sims, or even better, stay away from your comp: Gor should NOT be a gathering of the mentally ill, a gathering of the sickos that DO exist on earth. If THAT is Gor, then we are only lucky it does not exist, and we are lucky if it will never have success, for sim rules that TELL: This is a place meant for recruiting patients for psychopathology.

Where is the Gor of mentally healthy people who are only themselves, where is the Gor of nature loving people where is the Hero who battles for justice, where is the competent woman with a straight back who stands up and TELLS what is wrong here?

Gor is punished day by day by people who fail to mark it as the wonderful place it is meant to be. Gor as a copied system is the most outstanding case of mass mismanagement.